Even more proof that all iPhones ship containing utterly primitive battery technology

[Andy Burnelli]

My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery nowadays
(and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of
modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).

I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>

That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.

People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search
you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).

At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form
factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).

This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM

Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.
--
I don't care iKooks are child-like with a low-IQ, no education & low self
esteem; but due to that, they're so upset that Apple always screws them.

[Snit]

Your focus started on battery life — 4.5 hours.

Then you moved goalposts to try to make Apple look bad. Curious.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-23 9:55 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery
> nowadays

Ummmm.... ...no.

Your claim WAS that "most" phones (not "modern" phones) had a 5 amp-hour
batter (or implicitly, better than that).

And that claim was completely wrong.

> (and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of
> modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).
>
> I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
> search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022.
> <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
>
> That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.

So you change your claim... ...and?

>
> People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
> search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search
> you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).

Again: people don't give a DAMN what number of amp-hours their battery has.

They care how long their phone will run.

>
> At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form
> factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
>
> This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:

Great! So what?

>
> Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
> Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.

And yet, when you look at how long phones can actually run before
needing to recharged, the picture is quite different.

[sms]

On 3/23/2022 9:59 AM, Snit wrote:

<snip>

> Your focus started on battery life — 4.5 hours.

I noticed that too, but I think that he just forgot to put in "Amp-"
before "hours," or he may not understand how batteries are rated for
capacity (though the more common error is to use "Amps" without hours).

And of course this assumes single-cell batteries. Some flagship phones
are now using two-cell batteries so then you really want to use WH if
the cells are discharged in series (Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra). The advantage
is being able to charge the phone faster since the batteries are charged
in parallel (it can charge at 120W and fully charge in 21 minutes).
There are also some other advantages of doing DC-DC conversion from 7.4V
instead of from 3.7V.

[sms]

On 3/23/2022 11:36 AM, sms wrote:
> On 3/23/2022 9:59 AM, Snit wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Your focus started on battery life — 4.5 hours.
>
> I noticed that too, but I think that he just forgot to put in "Amp-"
> before "hours," or he may not understand how batteries are rated for
> capacity (though the more common error is to use "Amps" without hours).
>
> And of course this assumes single-cell batteries. Some flagship phones
> are now using two-cell batteries so then you really want to use WH if
> the cells are discharged in series (Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra).

Actually it's the Xiaomi 11T Pro, my mistake.

[Andy Burnelli]

sms wrote:

>> Your focus started on battery life ¡X 4.5 hours.

>
> I noticed that too, but I think that he just forgot to put in "Amp-"
> before "hours," or he may not understand how batteries are rated for
> capacity (though the more common error is to use "Amps" without hours).

Thank you Steve for pointing this out as I don't see any posts but yours.
(The only people I have in my killfiles are Snit, Alan Baker, Rod Speed,
Dustin Cook, et. al, so _you_ are not in my killfile & you never will be).

Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more
complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose) much like
your undergraduate EE degree, rest assured it was simply a typo (I didn't
even look back as I _was_ talking only about battery Amp-hour ratings).

Battery-life tests are a completely different component (in many ways).

For example, given Apple touts their battery form factors, and given we are
all well aware Apple cheaped out on battery materials in the iPhone 12, and
given it appears Apple doesn't have a single modern-sized battery yet in any
iPhone, what would be interesting is to find out if Apple makes even a
_single_ iPhone that has a 4-1/2 Amp-hour rated battery in _any_ iPhone.

Even so, I will agree ahead of time that the Amp-hour rating isn't as
important as how long the battery lasts in typical use but we all have to
realize that it's a fact nobody on the planet has ever independently
replicated Apple's overly inflated battery life tests in any known report.

My overall assessment is that it's so yesterday to need to charge a phone
overnight anymore, what with the ubiquity of fast chargers & huge batteries.
--
Apple only tells the truth in court.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-23 4:00 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> sms wrote:
>
>>> Your focus started on battery life �X 4.5 hours.
>>
>> I noticed that too, but I think that he just forgot to put in "Amp-"
>> before "hours," or he may not understand how batteries are rated for
>> capacity (though the more common error is to use "Amps" without hours).
>
> Thank you Steve for pointing this out as I don't see any posts but yours.
> (The only people I have in my killfiles are Snit, Alan Baker, Rod Speed,
> Dustin Cook, et. al, so _you_ are not in my killfile & you never will be).
>
> Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more
> complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose) much like
> your undergraduate EE degree, rest assured it was simply a typo (I didn't
> even look back as I _was_ talking only about battery Amp-hour ratings).
>
> Battery-life tests are a completely different component (in many ways).
>
> For example, given Apple touts their battery form factors, and given we are
> all well aware Apple cheaped out on battery materials in the iPhone 12, and
> given it appears Apple doesn't have a single modern-sized battery yet in
> any
> iPhone, what would be interesting is to find out if Apple makes even a
> _single_ iPhone that has a 4-1/2 Amp-hour rated battery in _any_ iPhone.
>
> Even so, I will agree ahead of time that the Amp-hour rating isn't as
> important as how long the battery lasts in typical use but we all have
> to realize that it's a fact nobody on the planet has ever independently
> replicated Apple's overly inflated battery life tests in any known report.

Other than the independent tests I've already cited, you mean.

[nospam]

In article <t1g8pd$1kav$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli

<sp...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more
> complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose)

for graduate work, is a telephoto lens used take photos of textbooks?

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> Since my graduate work is also in electrical engineering (it's far more
>> complicated than that but that's good enough for this purpose)
>
> for graduate work, is a telephoto lens used take photos of textbooks?

*What's your college undergraduate degree in nospam?*

[For Arlen the dropout]

What's yours first?

[Andy Burnelli]

We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups as this thread is about the sheer
joy of owning a _modern_ phone (which all have huge batteries nowadays).

My fault.
I hadn't realized primitive iPhones don't have modern battery technology.

Searching only modern 2022 phones show _zero_ iPhones in those results.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2022&nBatCapacityMin=4400>

That shows 99 modern phones with huge batteries, literally _zero_ of which
are the primitive iPhones that _still_ ship with archaic battery technology.

Below are the first 70 in that list of almost 100 modern phones which
nowadays have _huge_ batteries (and many come with fast chargers too).

*6000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi 10 (India) - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*6000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy M33 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5600 mAh* Lenovo Legion Y90 - 640 GB storage, 18 GB RAM
*5500 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K50 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5160 mAh* Xiaomi 11i - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5050 mAh* Nokia G21 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5050 mAh* Nokia G11 - 32 GB storage, 3 GB RAM
*5050 mAh* Nokia C21 Plus - 64 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* vivo iQOO Z6 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* vivo T1 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* ZTE nubia Z40 Pro - 1024 GB storage, 16 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* ZTE nubia Red Magic 7 Pro - 1024 GB storage, 16 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11E Pro - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11E - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G (India) - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi 10C - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi 10 2022 - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Tecno Spark 8C - 64 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G - 1024 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy M23 - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy F23 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A73 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A53 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A33 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A23 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Samsung Galaxy A13 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme Narzo 50A Prime - 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme Narzo 50 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme GT2 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme GT2 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme GT Neo3 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme C35 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9i - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9 Pro - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9 5G Speed - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Realme 9 5G - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo K10 - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo Find X5 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo A96 - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Oppo A76 - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* OnePlus 10 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Motorola Moto G22 - 64 GB storage, 4 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Motorola Moto G Stylus (2022) - 128 GB storage, 6 GB RAM
*5000 mAh* Infinix Zero 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4800 mAh* Oppo Find X5 - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4800 mAh* Motorola Edge 30 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4800 mAh* Honor Magic4 - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4700 mAh* vivo iQOO 9 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4700 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4600 mAh* Honor Magic4 Ultimate - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4600 mAh* Honor Magic4 Pro - 512 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* vivo iQOO 9 SE - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* ZTE nubia Red Magic 7 - 512 GB storage, 18 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Xiaomi Redmi K40S - 256 GB storage, 12 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Xiaomi 11i HyperCharge 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Realme 9 Pro+ - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo Reno7 Z 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo Reno7 5G - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo Find X5 Lite - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* Oppo A96 (China) - 256 GB storage, 8 GB RAM
*4500 mAh* OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G - 128 GB storage, 8 GB RAM

Gone is the primitive approach iPhones use of nightly charging cycles.
That's one reason I absolutely _love_ my huge-battery 2021 free phone!
--
A key difference between an educated and uneducated person is that the
educated person makes assessments based on the actual facts of the matter.

[Snit]

You posted much of the same the other day. Funny how you’ve dropped the
whole concept of battery of life. That’s what matters. How long you can go
before having to recharge. Oy.

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups as this thread is about
> the sheer
> joy of owning a _modern_ phone (which all have huge batteries
> nowadays).
>

That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?

I have _both_ iOS and Android devices, which is different from you iKooks,
particularly the IQ 40 morons like Snit who make those hilarious videos.

All of you iKooks suffer from the confluence of three factors:
a. Your self esteem is in the toilet (rightly so)
b. And your IQ is too low for you to comprehend what adults can
c. Worse - none of you have _any_ education to speak of

That's _why_ you're iKooks.
1. You believed every lie Apple told you
2. To the point that facts can't fit into your child-like brains

*The sad fact is the iPhone is _primitive_ in terms of battery technology.*

Almost all (if not all) _modern_ phones come with huge batteries nowadays.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2022&nBatCapacityMin=4400>

I post the truth to the Apple newsgroups, which, in this case, is the fact
that the primitive iPhone uses archaic battery technology.

Personally, I _love_ my free modern (2021) Android 5G phones with their
_huge_ batteries, especially given my half-price iPhone 11 mini sucks.

Apple put cheap battery technology in my half-price iPhone 11 mini, not only
in the laughably puny form factor but Apple used cheap battery components
(which was widely reported so only the iKooks are ignorant of those facts).
<https://i.postimg.cc/YC1B906F/tmopromo01.jpg> A32-5G & iPhone 12 contract

The battery life of my free Samsung phones outlasts that laughably paltry
iPhone every single day (were the only phone on the charger is the iPhone).

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?
>
> I have _both_ iOS and Android devices,

If the ikooks tormented me as much as they torment you, I would
throw that damn iphones away! And get the hell out of here, as well.

After all, you're a super intelligent, highly educated adult, right?

[Snit]

Andy Burnelli <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> That's a great idea. When will you get around to removing yourself?
>
> I have _both_ iOS and Android devices, which is different from you iKooks,
> particularly the IQ 40 morons like Snit who make those hilarious videos.

Funny how my videos still piss you off. Your precious Android was shown to
not be the best in all areas.

And now you’ve get to figure out that you’re still focused on battery
capacity and not battery life. Damn, you are being slow.

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> If the ikooks tormented me as much as they torment you.

You always fail to comprehend anything and everything about adult topics...

Fact is, the iKooks don't torment me any more than the DK bank robber did.
These low-IQ low-self-esteem no-education iKooks actually _interest_ me.

Just like the strange lemon-juice bank robber interested Dunning & Kruger.

I've never met, in the flesh, people as incredibly ignorant as they are.
Essentially they garner _all_ their self esteem from what Apple feeds them.

Pray tell... do tell me more about you, "Hank Rogers".
*What is your education for example?*

You interest me in so much as I've never met people like you in the flesh.

BTW, the only iKooks I filter are the dumbest ones.
Those with an IQ below 50 such as Snit & Alan Baker & Rod Speed & Dustin.

Nothing can be learned from them.
But I keep the iKooks unfiltered who have _double_ their IQ's.

For example, nospam & Chris & Alan Browne have an IQ around 80.
One out of every hundred of their posts actually contain _adult_ value.

For _this_ thread, the point is that Apple fucked you on your battery tech.
Not a single iPhone contains modern battery technology (as in 2022).

That's why you are tethered to your overnight charging cycles.
The rest of us, with _modern_ battery technology, aren't.

In 2022, _all_ modern smartphones come with _huge_ batteries.
Gone are the primitive use models of charging the phone every night.
And gone are the archaic overnight waiting times to recharge the phone.

All _modern_ smartphones replenish from 0 to 100% in about 2-1/2 hours.

--
I don't care iKooks are child-like with a low-IQ, no education & low self

esteem; but due to that, they're so DK confident in always being dead wrong.

[Chris]

Andy Burnelli <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
> We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups

If only...

[Andy Burnelli]

Chris wrote:

>> We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups
>
> If only...

Hi there Chris,

You _wish_ I stopped telling the truth about Apple.
In fact, you _hate_ me _because_ I tell the truth about Apple.

As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
Apple: Santa Claus exists
Truth: No kids, he doesn't

The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries nowadays
which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).

All consumer electronics (except highly marketed devices) just gets
a. better
b. faster
c. cheaper

In fact, I am currently testing my _fast_ charger with my _free_ 64GB 5G
phone for example, where I expect a 0 to full charge in about 2-1/2 hours.

Given Apple doesn't even _ship_ a fast charger in the box anymore,
all the primitive (but highly marketed) iPhone does over time is get
a. worse
b. slower
c. more expensive

Yet Apple profit margins continue to be the envy of the industry.

Do you know why?
I do.

HINT: You can't make those ungodly profits off of an intelligent customer.
--
DOUBLE HINT: Apple R&D is the _lowest_ (bar none) in all of high tech.
TRIPLE HINT:
That's why Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class SOC in its history.
Hell, Apple can't even design a competitive modem IC for Christs sake.
Nor can Apple even _integrate_ a modem they bought whole from Qualcomm.
Apple can't even design their own CPUs (they use ARM technology instead).

All Apple _can_ do is scream out in ads "TSMC SILICON!!!!!!!!!!!" (woo hoo).

[Chris]

On 25/03/2022 14:36, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>>> We may as well remove the Apple newsgroups
>>
>> If only...
>
> Hi there Chris,
>
> You _wish_ I stopped telling the truth about Apple.
> In fact, you _hate_ me _because_ I tell the truth about Apple.

You have a very odd relationship with the truth. It's like some distant
cousin that you remember meeting at an aged aunt's funeral years ago.

> As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
> Apple: Santa Claus exists
> Truth: No kids, he doesn't
>
> The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries nowadays
> which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).

You're completely focused on capacity where the user only really cares
about time. Which in actual fact has gone backwards over the last 20
years. Mobile phones used to last for days and weeks with tiny capacity
batteries.

Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time
usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only need
to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.

[Chris]

No, no! You got it ask wrong. He's only got average intelligence - he said
so many times - and even he, the mere mortal that he is, can see the GAPING
FLAWS in all things Apple.

What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
people are more intelligent than him. It shows.

[Alan]

Personally, I've never seen the big deal with charging every night.

You have to sleep, don't you?

:-)

[Andy Burnelli]

Chris wrote:

> What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
> people are more intelligent than him. It shows.

Please...

I consider it an insult when you can't even insult me using correct grammar.

[Andy Burnelli]

Chris wrote:

> You have a very odd relationship with the truth. It's like some distant
> cousin that you remember meeting at an aged aunt's funeral years ago.

Hi Chris,

What all you low-IQ low-self-esteem uneducated iKooks hate are the facts.

Here's a truthful result which you can't hope to match with your primitive
archaic iPhones that never have modern battery technology (and it shows).
<https://i.postimg.cc/W1D9dNqw/charging11.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours

My _free_ phone has a huge battery, and as a direct result:
a. It lasts forever
b. It doesn't need nightly charging
c. It charges completely in about two hours

The iPhone, in contrast:
a. Barely lasts a day
b. Requires nightly charge cycles
c. Doesn't even come with a charger, let alone a fast charger

>> As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
>> Apple: Santa Claus exists
>> Truth: No kids, he doesn't
>>
>> The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries nowadays
>> which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).
>
> You're completely focused on capacity where the user only really cares
> about time. Which in actual fact has gone backwards over the last 20
> years. Mobile phones used to last for days and weeks with tiny capacity
> batteries.

I'm focused on the fact you're stuck with archaic nightly charge cycles.

While my iPhone is stuck on the bedstand, my Android charges in two hours!
<https://i.postimg.cc/T1CkDhcC/charging12.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours

> Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time
> usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only need
> to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.

The fact remains that _all_ modern phones have huge batteries nowadays:
*Gone are the primitive need for archaic nightly charge cycles*
--
The problem with all low IQ low-self-esteem no-education iKooks is simply
that their ego is melded by the bullshit that Apple cleverly feeds them.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-25 11:27 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>> You have a very odd relationship with the truth. It's like some
>> distant cousin that you remember meeting at an aged aunt's funeral
>> years ago.
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> What all you low-IQ low-self-esteem uneducated iKooks hate are the facts.
>
> Here's a truthful result which you can't hope to match with your primitive
> archaic iPhones that never have modern battery technology (and it shows).
> <https://i.postimg.cc/W1D9dNqw/charging11.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours

And the goalposts move again!

>
> My _free_ phone has a huge battery, and as a direct result:
> a. It lasts forever
> b. It doesn't need nightly charging
> c. It charges completely in about two hours

Which phone is that?

>
> The iPhone, in contrast:

Which iPhone?

> a. Barely lasts a day
> b. Requires nightly charge cycles
> c. Doesn't even come with a charger, let alone a fast charger
>
>>> As the truth, to people who own imaginary belief systems, is dangerous.
>>> Apple: Santa Claus exists
>>> Truth: No kids, he doesn't
>>>
>>> The fact remains that _all_ the modern phones have huge batteries
>>> nowadays
>>> which negate the archaic need to charge nightly (which iPhones require).
>>
>> You're completely focused on capacity where the user only really cares
>> about time. Which in actual fact has gone backwards over the last 20
>> years. Mobile phones used to last for days and weeks with tiny
>> capacity batteries.
>
> I'm focused on the fact you're stuck with archaic nightly charge cycles.
>
> While my iPhone is stuck on the bedstand, my Android charges in two hours!
> <https://i.postimg.cc/T1CkDhcC/charging12.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours

And what practical difference does that make to you?

>
>> Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time
>> usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only
>> need to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.
>
> The fact remains that _all_ modern phones have huge batteries nowadays:
> *Gone are the primitive need for archaic nightly charge cycles*

Which gains you... ...what?

[Jolly Roger]

Indeed. I throw mine on the charger beside my bed each night regardless
of how low the battery happens to be. I don't even think about charging
it anymore - it's just routine. Would I love it if a single charge
lasted multiple days? Sure. Is it an actual problem that it doesn't?
Nope.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-03-25, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hank Rogers <ha...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> If the ikooks tormented me as much as they torment you, I would throw
>> that damn iphones away! And get the hell out of here, as well.
>>
>> After all, you're a super intelligent, highly educated adult, right?
>
> No, no! You got it ask wrong. He's only got average intelligence - he
> said so many times - and even he, the mere mortal that he is, can see
> the GAPING FLAWS in all things Apple.
>
> What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
> people are more intelligent than him. It shows.

Really?? Haven't you seen his photos of old books?!

[sms]

On 3/25/2022 10:14 AM, Alan wrote:

<snip>

> Personally, I've never seen the big deal with charging every night.
>
> You have to sleep, don't you?

The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
the hotel all day. I'm typically using apps like Moovit, All Trails, and
other mapping apps. A 12-16 hour day of that is too much for most
phones, including ones with our favorite troll's "massive batteries" so
I take along a back-up battery pack. In the olden days I'd just take
along a spare battery for the phone.

[Andy Burnelli]

Jolly Roger wrote:

>> What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
>> people are more intelligent than him. It shows.
>
> Really?? Haven't you seen his photos of old books?!

The fact remains that the iPhone uses outdated archaic battery technology.

<https://i.postimg.cc/T1CkDhcC/charging12.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours

In 2022, *all modern phones now come with huge batteries* which inherently
allow for long life, both in terms of daily use, and in terms of lifetime.

By way of stark comparison, the iPhone is downright archaically primitive.
In addition, many modern phones now come with free modern fast chargers.

As a fact which will make you iKooks cry in shame, my _free_ phone (which
has far more app functionality than the most expensive iPhone ever sold),
charged today from to full in under two hours (a test I promised yesterday).

And yet, the iPhone is _always_ needing to be recharged every damn night.
It's yet another proof of how archaically primitive iPhone technology is.

[Andy Burnelli]

Jolly Roger wrote:

> Indeed. I throw mine on the charger beside my bed each night regardless
> of how low the battery happens to be. I don't even think about charging
> it anymore - it's just routine. Would I love it if a single charge
> lasted multiple days? Sure. Is it an actual problem that it doesn't?
> Nope.

*The point of this thread is to show how _primitive_ iPhone technology is.*
And you agreed with that point by what you say is your primitive use model.

The fact is I too used the primitive archaic stone-age methods you did, JR.
But no more.

I _love_ my phone with the huge battery and the fast charger, Jolly Roger.
I'm not stuck in the Stone Age of battery technology like all iPhones are.

*All modern smartphones come with huge batteries & many with fast chargers*.

The instant I had a _modern_ phone with a _huge_ battery and a free fast
charger that came in the box, I realized what a boon it is to be set free.

Gone are those stone-age days where you have to do what _you_ have to do.
The rest of us have a phone that lasts for days & charges almost instantly.
--
The problem with low IQ low-self-esteem no-education iKooks is simply that
their ego is intertwined with the bullshit that Apple cleverly feeds them.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-25 1:23 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>>> What he seems to forget with his average intelligence is that ~50% of
>>> people are more intelligent than him. It shows.
>>
>> Really?? Haven't you seen his photos of old books?!
>
> The fact remains that the iPhone uses outdated archaic battery technology.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/T1CkDhcC/charging12.jpg> modern charge = 2 hours

Interesting you've moved the goalposts...

...and you're still wrong.

'Fast-charge capable: Up to 50% charge in 30 minutes11 with 20W adapter
or higher (available separately)'

<https://www.apple.com/ca/iphone-13/specs/>

'Does Your iPhone Support Fast Charging?

iPhones have long supported faster charging with a 12W iPad adapter and
Apple improved on that rate by introducing fast charging via USB Power
Delivery (PD) with the release of the iPhone 8 in 2017. With PD, most
newer iPhones can charge at up to 22W, while the iPhone 13 Pro Max
reportedly supports up to 27W wired charging.'

<https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-fast-iphone-chargers>

'With a 20-watt brick and Lightning to USB-C cable, you can go from zero
to 50% charged in half an hour, and fully charge an iPhone 13 in about
two hours.'

<https://9to5mac.com/2021/12/12/how-to-fast-charge-iphone-13/>

You were saying?

>
> In 2022, *all modern phones now come with huge batteries* which inherently
> allow for long life, both in terms of daily use, and in terms of lifetime.
>
> By way of stark comparison, the iPhone is downright archaically
> primitive. In addition, many modern phones now come with free modern
> fast chargers.

"Many"?

Is that as accurate as your "most" about 5 amp-hour batteries in phones?

>
> As a fact which will make you iKooks cry in shame, my _free_ phone (which
> has far more app functionality than the most expensive iPhone ever sold),
> charged today from to full in under two hours (a test I promised
> yesterday).

So no better than a modern iPhone.

Got it.

>
> And yet, the iPhone is _always_ needing to be recharged every damn night.
> It's yet another proof of how archaically primitive iPhone technology is.

How is that related to your previous paragraph. What did you mean by
"and yet"?

[Andy Burnelli]

sms wrote:

> The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
> the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
> the hotel all day. I'm typically using apps like Moovit, All Trails, and
> other mapping apps. A 12-16 hour day of that is too much for most
> phones, including ones with our favorite troll's "massive batteries" so
> I take along a back-up battery pack. In the olden days I'd just take
> along a spare battery for the phone.

What Steve is clearly ignorant of is the two hour charging times.

[Laughing at Arlen]

On 2022-03-25 1:28 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Indeed. I throw mine on the charger beside my bed each night regardless
>> of how low the battery happens to be. I don't even think about charging
>> it anymore - it's just routine. Would I love it if a single charge
>> lasted multiple days? Sure. Is it an actual problem that it doesn't?
>> Nope.
>
> *The point of this thread is to show how _primitive_ iPhone technology is.*
> And you agreed with that point by what you say is your primitive use model.
>
> The fact is I too used the primitive archaic stone-age methods you did, JR.
> But no more.
>
> I _love_ my phone with the huge battery and the fast charger, Jolly Roger.
> I'm not stuck in the Stone Age of battery technology like all iPhones are.
>
> *All modern smartphones come with huge batteries & many with fast
> chargers*.

Because you now define "modern smartphones" as "comes with huge
batteries"...

...without regard for whether or not that means actual long run times.

And for the record, more than a third of all phones listed at GSMArena
from the year 2020 on have batteries 4400 milliamp-hours or smaller.

<https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2020&nBatCapacityMax=4400&sAvailabilities=1>

That's 521 out of 1250.

You lose again.

>
> The instant I had a _modern_ phone with a _huge_ battery and a free fast
> charger that came in the box, I realized what a boon it is to be set free.
>
> Gone are those stone-age days where you have to do what _you_ have to do.
> The rest of us have a phone that lasts for days & charges almost instantly.

Show us all precisely how long your phone lasts.

[Laughing at Arlen]

[Hank Rogers]

Say, Andy, some folks here say your name is really Arlen. Is that
true? If so, Arlen Who?

It's hard to tell where you are coming from, so I thought it would
be good to read up on your philosophy in the past, to get an idea
of how you think about telephones, in general, and how you got to
where you are.

This is a genuine query. I am NOT an apple warrior.

[Your Name]

The phones of 20 years ago didn't do a lot. The phones of today are
much faster, much brighter, higher-res/sized display, and are expected
to do a lot more (even if most people only use tham as glorified
two-way pagers) ... all of that means needing more power from a battery
that is about the same physical size.

Similarly, they make electric cars, but then keeping adding more and
more gimmickry and laws for daytime running lights that simply uses up
the battery power quicker. :-\

In most ways, battery tech has barely changed since the days of the
ancient Greeks. It's no surprise that more powerful modern devices have
batteries that don't last as long as old devices did.

If you really want a longer lasting phone, there are battery phone
cases which can double (or more) the usage time, at the expense of
making the phone a little bulkier and heavier.

[nospam]

In article <t1kmgq$cf$1...@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nowadays phones have massively battery capacity but only mediocre time
> usability. Even your so-called "modern" ones. I would love to only need
> to charge my phone once a week as I did with my first mobiles.

my first mobile was analog and needed two batteries for a single day.

digital phones had *much* better battery life, but didn't do anywhere
near what modern phones do.

however, if battery life is what you want, there are still flip phones
and candy bar phones available.

and then there was this:
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6748375/Energizer-unvei
ls-radical-phone-massive-battery-three-iPhones.html>
The phone is essentially a brick with a screen that promises 48 hours
of continuous video playback, or up to 50 days of power on standby. 

[nospam]

In article <t1l88k$rla$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
> the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
> the hotel all day. I'm typically using apps like Moovit, All Trails, and
> other mapping apps. A 12-16 hour day of that is too much for most
> phones, including ones with our favorite troll's "massive batteries" so
> I take along a back-up battery pack. In the olden days I'd just take
> along a spare battery for the phone.

that's an edge case, but regardless, it isn't an issue.

[Nil]

On 25 Mar 2022, sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

> The time I really notice the battery issue is when I'm traveling outside
> the U.S., walking around, taking buses and subways, and being gone from
> the hotel all day.

How much would it cost you to buy the Apple fast charger for your iPhone?

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> This is a genuine query.

This has been covered in detail many times.
The name is Harry. Harry Newton I think. Last I checked anyway.

Says so right here.
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> iKooks can't even see the fatal flaw!

> I am NOT an apple warrior.

Why then do you only care about the pretty wrapping paper & not the facts?
Being completely ignorant of the facts is what the Apple iKooks are.

a. They're _all_ of low IQ
b. They're _all_ uneducated
c. But what makes them iKooks is their self-esteem is in the toilet
(so they use Apple advertisements as their only ego bolster)

That's why they still believe in Santa Claus.
--

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

> if battery life is what you want, there are still flip phones
> and candy bar phones available.

Hi nospam,

I suspect your IQ is too low for you to correctly answer this question, but
I'll ask since you claim to know why Apple puts archaic outdated technology
in the iPhone.

Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly substandard battery &
charging technology?

HINT: Apple's "profits" are huge.
--
DOUBLEHINT: You can't make those profits off an intelligent customer base.

[*Hemidactylus*]

Andy Burnelli <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> if battery life is what you want, there are still flip phones
>> and candy bar phones available.
>
> Hi nospam,
>
> I suspect your IQ is too low for you to correctly answer this question, but
> I'll ask since you claim to know why Apple puts archaic outdated technology
> in the iPhone.
>
> Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly substandard battery &
> charging technology?
>
> HINT: Apple's "profits" are huge.

Do you masturbate fantasizing over the demise of Apple and licking up the
tears of the fanbois? I ask because anyone who posts as much as you about
hatred of a mobile operating system must be into some really messed up
shit.

[sms]

I have plenty of fast chargers, both QC and PD. but that's immaterial
when you're away from mains power for the whole day.

Last time I ran into this was pre-pandemic, in 2019, in Europe and Asia.
In two cities I was away from the hotel from early morning to late at
night and I was using the phone a lot for navigation and web browsing
and needed to charge during the day.

Fortunately, most airplanes now have power outlets, USB, AC, or both,
even in coach.

Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.

[*Hemidactylus*]

I have an older iPhone and it works. End of story.

[nospam]

In article <t1lkh5$f2p$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.

exactly why it's not an issue.

[Andy Burnelli]

*Hemidactylus* wrote:

> Do you masturbate fantasizing over the demise of Apple and licking up the
> tears of the fanbois? I ask because anyone who posts as much as you about
> hatred of a mobile operating system must be into some really messed up
> shit.

hehhehheh... you ignorant low-IQ iKooks get _everything_ dead wrong.
I don't hate Apple as I probably buy more Apple devices than you do.

You low-IQ low-self-esteem uneducated iKooks interest me much as a lowly ant
under a magnifying glass interests some people who tower over them.

What you _hate_ is when I bring the magnifying glass to the facts.
You _hate_ all facts about Apple.

It's no different than if you still believe in Santa Claus.
Hence, you'd _hate_ all facts that prove Santa is a marketing gimmick.

It's the same with you low-IQ no-education low-esteem iKooks Hemidactylus.

I study you low-IQ low-self-esteem no-education iKooks Hemidactylus.
Just as Dunning & Kruger studied the low-IQ lemon-juice bank robber.

Having been educated at the finest schools in the country, I have never met,
personally and in the flesh, people of such low IQ as you iKooks clearly
are.

Not a single one of you iKooks has so much as an undergraduate education.
Most of you didn't even graduate from high school, Hemidactylus.

And yet, you uneducated iKooks thrive on Usenet.
Do you know why?

I do.

Hence that's why I asked nospam the logical question any person would ask:

*Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly*
*substandard archaic battery & laughable charging technology?*
--
HINT:
You can't make those ungodly profits off of an intelligent customer base.

[Nil]

On 25 Mar 2022, sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

> Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.

How much would it cost anyone to buy the Apple fast charger for your iPhone?

[Nil]

On 25 Mar 2022, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

>> Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
>
> exactly why it's not an issue.

When did Apple start selling the iPhone 12 fast charger in the Apple stores?

[Nil]

On 25 Mar 2022, *Hemidactylus* <ecph...@allspamis.invalid> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

>> Even a 1A/5W charger is enough to charge a phone overnight.
>>
> I have an older iPhone and it works. End of story.

What did Apple Stores do with non Apple fast chargers just months
before the iPhone 12 was released in those same Apple stores?

[Alan]

I don't know precisely when.

But it's less than $20.

[Alan]

On 2022-03-25 5:43 p.m., Nil wrote:

Some time back in 2020...

[Alan]

<https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/accessories/power-cables?page=2&f=charger&fh=458e%2B45d4>

Nothing.

[*Hemidactylus*]

Andy Burnelli <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>> Do you masturbate fantasizing over the demise of Apple and licking up the
>> tears of the fanbois? I ask because anyone who posts as much as you about
>> hatred of a mobile operating system must be into some really messed up
>> shit.
>
> hehhehheh... you ignorant low-IQ iKooks get _everything_ dead wrong.
> I don't hate Apple as I probably buy more Apple devices than you do.
>

Why since they suck so badly?

>
> You low-IQ low-self-esteem uneducated iKooks interest me much as a lowly ant
> under a magnifying glass interests some people who tower over them.
>

Then why do you continue to come down from the lofty heights to edify us oh
Zarathustra?

>
> What you _hate_ is when I bring the magnifying glass to the facts.
> You _hate_ all facts about Apple.
>

No I laugh my ass off at pretentious jackasses like you who masturbate
profusely in public settings and call it important stuff.

>
> It's no different than if you still believe in Santa Claus.
> Hence, you'd _hate_ all facts that prove Santa is a marketing gimmick.
>
> It's the same with you low-IQ no-education low-esteem iKooks Hemidactylus.
>
> I study you low-IQ low-self-esteem no-education iKooks Hemidactylus.
> Just as Dunning & Kruger studied the low-IQ lemon-juice bank robber.
>

Dunning-Kruger is toast. Apparently you didn’t know that.

>
> Having been educated at the finest schools in the country, I have never met,
> personally and in the flesh, people of such low IQ as you iKooks clearly
> are.
>

Your GED? Or the diploma mill you attended after?

>
> Not a single one of you iKooks has so much as an undergraduate education.
> Most of you didn't even graduate from high school, Hemidactylus.
>

Twit. Does your mom charge rent for the basement Norman Bates?

>
> And yet, you uneducated iKooks thrive on Usenet.
> Do you know why?
>
> I do.
>
> Hence that's why I asked nospam the logical question any person would ask:
>
> *Why do _you_ think that all iPhones come with grossly*
> *substandard archaic battery & laughable charging technology?*
>

Maybe you should launch a Quixotic campaign. You epitomize L.O.S.E.R. I
only lower myself to reply because I find you the most hilariously kooky
cyberstalker of an OS I have ever seen. iOS should get a restraining order
on you creep.

[*Hemidactylus*]

I don’t care.

[Alan]

As someone once said:

Before you ask "why"...

...ask "if"?

[Hank Rogers]

He seems like a nice fella, and I've asked him a few questions too,
but he never answers. He probably won't answer you either.

I guess he's real smart and has lots of degrees, and books, but he
just isn't one of those helping type people.

He'll just say you have low iq, and are an iKook.

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> This is a genuine query.
>
> This has been covered in detail many times.

I've never seen it, Harry.

> The name is Harry. Harry Newton I think. Last I checked anyway.

Well, check with your mom or pop if you don't know for sure.

While we're on the subject, do you ever feel that your mom or dad
could be iKooks, or could have low IQs? Did they ever make you feel
inferior when you were young? Do you hate either of them?

You don't have any children or wife, right Harry?

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

> He seems like a nice fella, and I've asked him a few questions too,
> but he never answers. He probably won't answer you either.

It's all about three things with all you iKooks:
a. Abysmally Low IQ
b. Horribly Low Self Esteem
c. Absolutely No Education

*Those three things are _why_ you're iKooks.*

It's not my fault that all you iKooks have absolutely no education, is it?
You blame me for your IQ being clearly abysmally low too, but why?
Why is it that _your_ lack of self esteem is, all of a sudden, my problem?

All you iKooks personalize the fact that the messenger is telling you that
Santa Claus doesn't exist; but you're _desperate_ to believe that he does.

You iKooks don't own the adult cognitive skills to realize that the iPhone
is, by all accounts, mired in the stone age of battery & charger technology.

*A simple example is all modern smartphones now come with _huge_ batteries*.
Many come with fast chargers that charge the phone in a couple of hours.

Gone are the Stone-Age days of charging a phone each & every night.
Unless you own the laughably primitive iPhone, of course.

Then you're stuck with a dead battery & horrendously long charge times.
Even worse, the phone battery "ages" beyond use well before it should.
--
Never forget you can't make Apple's profits off of intelligent customers.

[Andy Burnelli]

Hank Rogers wrote:

>> This has been covered in detail many times.
>
> I've never seen it, Harry.

Yes you have. You responded to it yourself.
Look back at badgolferman's thread to which _you_ responded.

Despite your kindergarten attempt to soil the messenger, the sad fact
remains all iPhones are designed with laughably antiquated battery & charger
technology.

>> The name is Harry. Harry Newton I think. Last I checked anyway.
>
> Well, check with your mom or pop if you don't know for sure.

All you iKooks have the brain of a kindergarten child.
It's _why_ you're iKooks.

You still believe in Santa Claus even though that's a MARKETING gimmick.
In fact, you fall for _every_ silly marketing gimmick in the book.

You don't even know why.
But I do.

a. Your IQ is no higher than about 40
b. You have no education whatsoever
c. And your self esteem is fed to you by (brilliant) Apple gimmicks

The fact remains all iPhones are antiquated battery & charger technology.

> While we're on the subject, do you ever feel that your mom or dad
> could be iKooks, or could have low IQs? Did they ever make you feel
> inferior when you were young? Do you hate either of them?

Again, you fail to comprehend what all adults comprehend.
You _hate_ me because I told you Santa Claus doesn't exist.

You _hate_ that facts ruin your purely imaginary belief system.
What's interesting is I understand you.

But you're of far too low of an IQ to understand yourself.

Even so, the fact remains that the iPhone is mired in archaic battery &
charger technology that all modern phones have recently eschewed.

> You don't have any children or wife, right Harry?

My grandchildren have more capacity to carry on a conversation than you do.

Even so, the fact remains every modern phone today has a huge battery.
You just hate that the iPhone is stuck in the stone age of smartphones.
--
The problem with the iKooks is that their self esteem is fed to them by
Apple to the point that they are desperate to believe in TSMC SILICON!!!!

[Hank Rogers]

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> He seems like a nice fella, and I've asked him a few questions
>> too, but he never answers. He probably won't answer you either.
>
> It's all about three things with all you iKooks:
> a. Abysmally Low IQ
> b. Horribly Low Self Esteem
> c. Absolutely No Education
>
>       *Those three things are _why_ you're iKooks.*
>
> It's not my fault that all you iKooks have absolutely no education,
> is it?
> You blame me for your IQ being clearly abysmally low too, but why?
> Why is it that _your_ lack of self esteem is, all of a sudden, my
> problem?
>
> All you iKooks personalize the fact that the messenger is telling
> you that
> Santa Claus doesn't exist; but you're _desperate_ to believe that
> he does.
>
> You iKooks don't own the adult cognitive skills to realize that the
> iPhone
> is, by all accounts, mired in the stone age of battery & charger
> technology.
>

Eeek! iKooks! iKooks EVERYWHERE!

[*Hemidactylus*]

Board up the windows and don’t let them bite you. Wait we’re already
infected. Don’t bother.

[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> My claim is "most" modern phones have at least a 4-1/2 hour battery nowadays
> (and as a result, a phone that does not is downright primitive in terms of
> modern battery technology - and yes - packaging is a technology component).
>
> I just ran this search where they only allow even numbers so I set the
> search to 4.4Ah (instead of to 4.5Ah) & allowed all phones in 2021 & 2022.
> <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&nBatCapacityMin=4400>
>
> That shows 485 phones since 2021 with battery capacity of 4.4Ah or greater.
>
> People who claim Apple iPhones aren't primitive - feel free to run the
> search (and feel free to run a _different_ search because almost any search
> you run will prove that iPhones are a primitive technology in 2021/2022).
>
> At least in terms of battery technology (which certainly includes the form
> factor, especially as Apple widely touts their BS battery form factors).
>
> This is a cut-and-paste of the top 70 shown in the first page results:
> Realme GT Neo3 Android 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A53 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A73 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A33 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 1024GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi 12 Pro Android - 4600 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A52s 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi K50 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Realme Narzo 50A Prime Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi K50 Android - 5500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi 12 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Poco X4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Android - 5020 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Honor Magic4 Ultimate Android - 4600 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A32 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Oppo A96 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy F23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
> Xiaomi 12X Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Poco F3 Android - 4520 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Realme GT2 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro Android - 5160 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A52 Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi K40S Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> OnePlus 10 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> vivo iQOO Z6 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A22 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
> Xiaomi 11T Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 16GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi 10C Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
> Realme 9 Pro+ Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Oppo Find X5 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
> Google Pixel 6 Pro Android - 5003 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Realme 9 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A03 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 4GB RAM
> Xiaomi 11T Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Oppo K10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Google Pixel 6 Android - 4614 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A23 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A22 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A13 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy M52 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A03s Android - 5000 mAh battery, 64GB, 4GB RAM
> Oppo Reno7 Z 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> OnePlus Nord 2 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Oppo Reno7 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A72 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A32 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Motorola Edge 30 Pro Android - 4800 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi 10 Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi K50 Gaming Android - 4700 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Realme 9i Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 6GB RAM
> Oppo Reno7 Pro 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Xiaomi Poco M4 Pro 5G Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> OnePlus 9 Pro Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 12GB RAM
> Infinix Note 11 Pro Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Sony Xperia Pro-I Android - 4500 mAh battery, 512GB, 12GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy A52 5G Android - 4500 mAh battery, 256GB, 8GB RAM
> Samsung Galaxy M33 Android - 6000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
> Realme 9 5G Speed Android - 5000 mAh battery, 128GB, 8GB RAM
>
> Wow. That's interesting. Not a _single_ Apple iPhone in those results.
> Now I know why the Apple people don't like this fact about Apple iPhones.

How long does it take to charge your phone from completely dead to
completely full using the charger that came free with the phone?

All modern phones nowadays have huge batteries and mine is no exception.
I ran a test last night and mine took 2-1/4 hours to go from 0 to 100%
<https://i.postimg.cc/zGvhGxSb/charging13.jpg>

Specs:
Free 64 GB 8-core Samsung Galaxy A32-5G with a modern 5 Ah battery
Free 9.0V at 1.67A & 5.0V at 2.0A modern fast charger in the box
Phone purposefully run all day & night with LED flashlight on
until phone shut down indicating 1% battery.

Booted phone at 6:33AM and put on the charger & at 8:45AM today.
The phone said "*Your battery is half charged*" just one hour later.
Another hour & fifteen minutes the phone spoke out that it was full
"*Your battery is now at 100% charge*"

How long does it take _you_ to charge your phone from dead to full?
--
All modern phones now come with huge batteries which last forever.

[Alan]

Interesting how you've had to change your message, isn't it?

>
> All modern phones nowadays have huge batteries and mine is no exception.
> I ran a test last night and mine took 2-1/4 hours to go from 0 to 100%
> <https://i.postimg.cc/zGvhGxSb/charging13.jpg>

So the same as a current iPhone.

Got it.

[Your Name]

Most phones often ship (or in Apple and Samsung's case shipped) with a
relatively cheap charger, but you can get a more powerful one that
charges quicker.

>> All modern phones nowadays have huge batteries and mine is no exception.
>> I ran a test last night and mine took 2-1/4 hours to go from 0 to 100%
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/zGvhGxSb/charging13.jpg>
>
> So the same as a current iPhone.
>
> Got it.

For those who whine about charging times ...

"On April 3, 1973, Motorola engineer Martin Cooper made
the first-ever cell phone call on the DynaTAC 8000X.
The prototype he used weighed 2.4 lb (1.1 kg) and
measured 9.1 x 5.1 x 1.8 in (23 x 13 x 4.5 cm). This
clunky device offered a talk time of just 30 minutes
and required 10 hours to recharge."
<https://versus.com/en/news/cell-phone-history>

10 hours for only 30mins use ... that makes the complaints about 2.25
hours charging times pale into near insignificance. :-)

[Alan]

"Apple’s own charger beat out the rest of the competition, charging the
iPhone 13 to 99% in 90 minutes. It also registered the shortest amount
of time before the Apple logo was shown on the screen, after 1 minute
and 40 seconds, indicating the phone had enough power to turn on."

<https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/23/cnn-underscored/best-iphone-13-charger/index.html>

For full disclosure, that chargers costs $18USD.

Not exactly break-the-bank money.

:-)

[Andy Burnelli]

sms wrote:

> Lewis is wrong of course.

The folks on the c.s.r.p group may not be familiar with the iKooks, where
all the iKooks have the _same_ response in _any_ topic that purports to
mention the lack of basic functionality of their beloved product line.

In this case, it's FM radio - where they claim that it exists in another
form, and that nobody wants it anyway, and that most phones don't have it,
etc., all of which are always wrong since most phones _do_ have it.

Just not iPhones.

> In urban areas it would be rare to not have coverage, though often, even
> in urban areas when you're deep inside a big box store you'll lose coverage.

We call fall into the trap of discussing each of the lame excuses that the
iKooks come up with to defend the lack of basic functionality in the iPhone.

But the fact would remain that Apple's strategy is to slowly remove basic
functionality from the iPhone so that you tend to buy it back.

That's the only reason their beloved iPhone lacks the basic functionality
that is and always has been in _most_ phones every built & out there today.
a. Common sdcard slots for _portable_ memory
b. Industry standard 3.5mm jacks for general use
c. FM radios for emergency & specific needs
d. License-free cables such as industry standard USB-C cables
e. Fast chargers (or at least slow chargers) provided gratis, in the box
etc.
--
Usenet is where friendly people daily gather to discuss topics of interest.
Except for the iKooks who vehemently deny all facts they hate about Apple.

[Andy Burnelli]

Charlie Gibbs wrote:

>> you're assuming unlimited data is needed. it's not, largely because
>> most of the time, people are on wifi.
>
> You're assumng there's a nearby hotspot for which they have the
> password.

You haven't figured out yet that with the iKooks, their only goal is to
defend Apple at all costs, to the death, no matter what - and every time.

Hence it doesn't really matter what excuse nospam fabricates for why the
iPhone lacks the basic functionality of the FM radio that most phones have.

These iKooks (Lewis, nospam, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, et. al), only have a
half dozen responses to _everything_ about Apple that they themselves hate.

It doesn't matter _what_ the missing functionality is, as the conversation
will be the same no matter what, as what has never changed is Apple strategy
of slowly removing basic functionality so that you tend to buy it back.

Any conversation about basic functionality missing from the iPhone
always proceeds using most if not all of these tired old iKook tricks...

1. Normally they brazenly _fabricate_ a claim that the functionality exists.
(Of course, they _never_ come up with the facts since it's imaginary.)

2. They almost always claim nobody wants or needs the missing functionality.
(Which you're seeing them do here which is their _next_ excuse.)

3. They'll then claim that almost no phones have that basic functionality.
(Which, again, they did here and they're _always_ wrong on that too!)

4. Then they'll claim that there's no demand for that basic functionality.
(They did that here - but the fact most phones have it belies that).

5. This goes on for a long time where finally they get exasperated and
they start to say they know of the functionality but they won't tell you.

6. The adult response always is to ask them to name it, which they never
can, but often what they do is name something completely different.

7. If you can focus them back on the facts that they're _desperate_ to
derail they will extol the virtues of their presumed replacement.

8. If you continue to focus them on the fact their beloved product line
is missing the basic functionality, they will call you a troll & worse.

9. It will culminate in myriad kindergarten name calling episodes as you
clearly saw here, simply because they have no _adult_ response to facts.

10. Vastly shortened, this is essentially a conversation with these iKooks:

iKook: Santa is great! He's gonna give me a new iPhone for Christmas!
Adult: No son. That's just a marketing gimmick. Your parents are Santa.

iKook: No. You're wrong. He exists. I saw him on an Apple advertisement.
Adult: That's how marketing works, son. Apple wants you to think that.

Adult: The facts are Santa can't do that magical stuff you believe in.
iKook: Liar! Liar! Pants on fire! I hate you. Trollboi! You're wrong!

[Andy Burnelli]

Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> I see, my anecdotes don't count but yours do. Sorry, Your Majesty.

What you're running into is the iKooks own an imaginary belief system that
intimates their beloved product line has the basic functionality it lacks.

The problem you're seeing is that the iKooks don't own the adult skills to
simply accept that fact. All the iKooks have the confluence of three traits:
1. They garner _all_ their self esteem from Apple supposed superiority
(actually, it's their "choice" in such "supposed" technology)
2. They all have low IQs (you can tell by their lack of adult discussion)
3. As a result, every one lacks formal education (none are above 12th grade)
(most, like Alan Baker & Jolly Roger couldn't even earn their GED)

Like children still believing in Santa Claus well after the fifth grade, the
iKooks are _desperate_ to cling on to their unmet expectations.

Yet, the fact remains the iPhone lacks even the most basic functionality
that not only almost all phones have, but most phones still have - such as
the sdslot, the 3.5mm jack, the FM radio, the charger in the box, etc.

iKook: Santa exists. He's gonna give me an iPhone for Christmas.

Adult: No son. That's just a marketing gimmick. Your parents are Santa.

iKook: No. You're wrong. He exists. I saw him on an Apple advertisement.
Adult: That's how marketing works, son. Apple wants you to think that.

iKook: Liar! Liar! Pants on fire! Wrong! I hate you. You're a troll!

--
Usenet is where friendly people daily gather to discuss topics of interest.

Except, for some reason, the iKooks. They're here only to defend Apple.

[Andy Burnelli]

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> You would be surprised.
>
> Many industrial sites have either large levels of interference, are
> covered in enough metal to prevent external mobile signals penetrating
> or are simply in one of the many places where coveragee is patchy at best.
> Fortunately phones equipped with wifi calling can use the internet to
> make calls

What you're running into is the iKooks (Lewis, nospam, Jolly Roger, Alan
Baker, et. al) are always making _excuses_ for why the iPhone lacks basic
functionality that is (and always has been) in _most_ phones out there.

What they _hate_ is the basic functionality isn't in their beloved iPhone.

[Andy Burnelli]

sms wrote:

> nospam is wrong of course.

The _reason_ nospam is wrong is simply that he will fabricate any excuse he
can think of for the lack of basic functionality in the Apple product line.

> The FM radio on smart phones is used in other situations and when you're
> not on Wi-Fi, and sometimes when there's no cell coverage.

FM radio is basic functionality on _most_ phones for good reasons indeed.
--
Usenet is where kind-hearted people daily gather to voluntarily help others.

[Andy Burnelli]

NY wrote:

> If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you just
> tell people the answer instead of sitting there smugly saying "I know the
> answer - but I'm not going to tell you".

I would be perfectly happy if nospam is correct that we missed the solution.

> The spirit of news groups is a community of people who actually *want* to
> help each other.

All I want is the solution so that I can add it to my helpful tutorials.

> There is no place for people like you who sit on the
> sidelines, being smug, and not passing on their knowledge or experiences.

Steve & I both ran a search but nospam claims we're too stupid to find the
many solutions to the stated problem that nospam says he knows of offhand.

> He spent a lot of time wandering round the office, looking over people's
> shoulders, muttering "yes, that's easy" or "it's in one of those books
> over there".

We're all still waiting for nospam to come up with what he claims we missed.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

> the number of people for whom there is cellular/wifi but no fm is
> greater than the number of people for whom there is fm but no
> cellular/wifi.

It doesn't matter _what_ basic functionality is missing from nospam's
beloved choice in phones as nospam will defend that missing basic
functionality to the death by a myriad of excuses he fabricates.

What remains nonetheless, is the fact the iPhone lacks basic functionality.

a. Industry standard sdcard slots to use with _portable_ memory cards
b. Industry standard 3.5mm jacks for overall general-purpose needs
c. FM radios for emergency use & for specific needs when you're off the net
d. License-free cables & ports (such as industry standard USB-C cables)

e. Fast chargers (or at least slow chargers) provided gratis, in the box

f. Modern capacity batteries (more than 4-1/2 to 7 Amp hours nowadays)
etc.

All of that basic common hardware functionality is on _most phones_ today.
Just not on any current iPhone.

That's what is consistent & not nospam's myriad excuses as to why that fact.
--
Usenet is where friendly people daily gather to discuss topics of import.
Save for the iKooks. They're here solely to defend Apple to the death.